Alternative Response Technology for Capping the Deepwater Horizon Oil Well & for Oil Spill Cleanup

TO ALL THE ENGINEERS AND SCIENTIST AT BP. Here is a piece of candy for you to dwell on. Since BP likes a "kindergarten" approach to things, they might like this one. This is so simple and in front of their eyes. The problems with the domes was the "ice crystals". You say (BP)... "we've learned a lot with our experiments" (you should have already known). Here is a simple solution and I will explain it in a simple way for you. When water mixes with the gas at that depth, the water molecules bond with the methane, forming "ice crystals". Now you have just learned this in the last few weeks. This is why it plugged up your Simpson dome. Use what is against you to your advantage. Run water deep in the well bore. As the water mixes with the methane, this forms ice and plugs the well bore. You know this works because it plugged your Simpson dome before. This gives you enough time to make repairs to the (BOP) "Blowout Preventer Valve" and "PLUG THE DAMN HOLE".

Brad Wehde Interactive Media
65320 W Hwy 20
Bend, OR 97701
541-389-1261
email: brad@wehdeinteractive.com
website: http://www.wehdeinteractive.com

Steve:

Here is a link to a person who will indeed send your idea to BP and others.

His web site is:   http://www.alternativeresponsetechnology.com/oil_spill_ideas.html   Slick photos and Video on various items including BOP’s.

He is the one who recommended the small BOP on top of the other BOP.  We never asked him about the GE riser attached to the top of a BOP or was the riser really attached with those Hydraulic Oil and Mud Lines into a Flange.  We had suggested BP use another Flange with Shutoff Valve on it male to go into the GE riser female perhaps on top of BOP then they could shut that puppy down by turning with ROV the wheel .Never got an answer from BP or anyone on the Manual for the Cameron BOP to see what could be done to shut it down Plan B and Plan C or Plan E. 

Eight story BOP must not be attached to another 21 inch riser…..or it would have been PULLED OVER when Deepwater Horizon had lost it’s engines in runaway mode freezing up all motors on the rig.

That GAS in intakes made them all go bonkers as the ABANDON SHIP call was given and people left waterproof doors open until the rig pulled itself sideways with pull on riser against BOP top.

Once the water was sucked into the compartments the attitude of the rig over on it’s side caused immediate sinking and twisting breaking every possible riser tube and I had asked about how much riser from GE was still at the top of the BOP with no answer from anyone.    Perhaps this gentleman can provide the facts on Deepwater Horizon you desire.

My concern is that 350 RIGS in Gulf Waters have similar risers without check valves on hydraulic lines to BOP on bottom plus missing shutoff valves after BOP for such an emergency in the future PLUS the thickness of 21 inch riser being only .812 inches on wall exposed to salt water for years would mean some will start blowing out later when sea water and any other problems flexing back and forth cause weakening of these critical lines.   Too many failing or old well previously sealed for years may start blowing out including pushing out steel casings in an Earthquake or Tsunami situation from an Earthquake.   Getting rather scary with thinking about those on rigs getting hit with clouds of GAS killing everyone onboard then unit like Deepwater Horizon without super fan sprays for Salt Water water washdown and special DOT or USCG reflective tapes sewn on all sleeves, wrists, neck, shoulder and waist plus pants with reflective tape as well as all crew should be having to use a fannie pack with Navy Pilot inflatable small vest using AIR BOTTLES or blowing up with light and S.P.O.T. GPS locator in zip lock bag that can be turned on telling USCG of the emergency and exact location in 20 seconds PLUS the led lights can shine toward any flying craft overhead and helicopters can find these people even with ROV lights down 5,000 feet where 11 bodies are waiting to be picked up right now !

The BUSSED IN WORKERS near the President news conference were slick for CNN.  Too bad more is not being done to SKIM the oil all over the GULF but my VACTOR TRUCK suction with barges and separators like Movie Star Kevin Costner centrifuge is acceptable as the EPA and others have even put out literature on how to collect OIL from seawater using special mats on rollers with water going one way and OIL being squeezed out in another.  Wide skimmers like dustpans skimming 12 inches deep is one thing to realize will work .  As a State Certified Plumbing Contractor we would recommend DEEP WATER SUMP PUMPS PULLING OIL BLOBS WITH ROV UP TO THE TOP INTO BARGES !   Even using deep submersible pumps found in 1000 foot wells pumping OIL up from deeper areas into barges.

Maybe you both can help get this word out before the BENZENE and other Gas is taken in at a Nuclear Power Plant INTAKE for motors which caused explosion plus killed workers who did not have large OXYGEN TANKS WITH FULL FACE MASKS like should be worn by workers out there in the Gulf Oil recovery for safety purposes…especially those near the sea top over the spill where that super dangerous gas will rise, displace air and oxygen and risk the lives of ROV operators and CAPTAIN of the vessels.   No one is really addressing this problem at sea or keeping helicopters UP WIND to avoid a possible explosion for a close picture or flick. 

While we are waiting this weekend to see the BLACK OIL start pumping again through the BOP into the Gulf, I do hope they look at the sealing ideas quickly once it starts again.  I would also look into pouring cement to keep the 8 story item on the ocean floor in any emergency except Massive Earthquake !  My messages may stop as all of the suggestions have been given over and over to no avail and we need to prepare for any Hurricane or Oil related emergency in Tampa Bay.  Thanks for sharing information all these days friends.

Ralph

Ralph Charles Whitley, Sr. CFCO32631
Backflow Prevention, Inc.
4532 W. Kennedy Blvd. PMB-276
Tampa, Florida 33609-2042 USA
Phone: 813-286-2333
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May 28, 2010

BP suggestion for leaking oil in the gulf.

I believe the 1^st thing you tried was one of your better ideas. All it needed is a little adjustment to keep the ice from interfering.  Many times the simplest solution ends up being the best because we over think things. Take the dome you have and raise it. Disconnect the tube to the top. Cut off the top, but make it so it can be re-attached with bolts. Now you have 3 pieces. Lower the bottom of the dome and cover the leak. This will enclose it, but leave the top completely open and the spill will continue. By having it open, there should be limited or no freezing. Lower the “lid”. Since the lid will be fairly open, it can be lower top down, therefore not causing icing on the inside, but if anywhere on the outside [top]. Once you get it down, flip it and attach it to the bottom you lowered earlier. If the hole becomes iced, you can insert a plug during lowering and then remove it. Now you should have the dome back together and oil coming out of the hole on top. Now lower the tube/piping. This should be similar to the pipe you laid while drilling and icing should be minimal. If it occurs consider forcing hot air or hot liquid through the tube as it goes down. Once down, thread it into the top of the dome and you should be where you want to be when you tried it as a single piece dome.

Reinhard A Wolf

6458 W Roxbury Dr

Littleton , CO 80128

303-973-1774

Eric Cheung
kamhincheung@gmail.com

Best solution so far that I see to stop the leak 100% This is a modified version of my previous hot tap. This eliminates excessive pressure on the riser. This will drill out the damaged riser and drill stack. Safely allow a new riser to be fitted to the flange and only requires a few feet of good pipe.
Here is a link to the animation. http://www.wehdeinteractive.com/Deepwater/BestSolutionBypass.html
Brad Wehde Interactive Media
65320 W Hwy 20
Bend, OR 97701
541-389-1261
email: brad@wehdeinteractive.com
website: http://www.wehdeinteractive.com

Jim,

These are 3 of my ideas.

This was the first version of my modified hot tap, the issue with this is that you are shutting the flow of oil on the riser. The riser is only rated up to 1000 psi and so this method has the possibility for that to be exceeded.  http://www.wehdeinteractive.com/HorizonDeepwater.html

This is a modified version of my previous hot tap. This eliminates excessive pressure on the riser. This will drill out the damaged riser and drill stack. Safely allow a new riser to be fitted to the flange and only requires a few feet of good pipe.
Here is a link to the animation.
http://www.wehdeinteractive.com/Deepwater/BestSolutionBypass.html

This was my last idea that I got when I saw an artist version of what was below. If this was a true image of the BOP stack then I see no reason that this won’t work. There are so many ways to attach this device to the BOP stack and make it work. The boring tool mounted to the device (not shown) will bore out the pipe and drill stack from the top of the BOP and chamfer the edge of the flange. Then the boring tool slides out and a sealing ram is pressed into place with the hydraulic press that is mounted above.  This closure can also be fitted with a fitting to allow them to inject mud and cement through the top. This one could actually be my favorite if the flange and annular can withstand the pressure of the press. Like I was talking to you on the phone, there is so much steel around the BOP to attach something like this. The edges of the flange would be chamfered at an angle to allow this ram to seat and stop the flow without exerting lateral pressure on the flange or seat. I am not concerned with the oil flowing at a full rate as long as the press is well attached to the stack. The press can handle the pressure of it all.

http://www.wehdeinteractive.com/DeepwaterSolution3.html

There are so many things that concern me with the efforts that they are trying and have tried. Man and they say they have the best on hand. With the injection of the “junk shot” how is that material going to get into both the riser AND the drill stem? If they are injecting that through the Choke and Kill lines won’t that just inject the material into the riser. From what I understood the drill stem is also conducting Oil? Another danger with them doing a junk shot is: What if the “junk” stops up in the riser first. If this happens and the riser is only rated at 1000psi  or less then it could blow and cause more damage and leaking oil. See they say that they used the “junk shot” in Kuwait, well they did not have a drill stem inside and bent, damaged riser. These guys in “charge” worry me. They sound more like they are working on a kindergarten project. For all these ideas, most of this stuff can be built from material and equipment that is out there already. You know this whole thing and the way that it has been handled has just pissed me off so bad. If I ever would have been able to talk to engineers or was able to see firsthand what is being dealt with I am sure we could have come up with a feasible solution a long time ago. Oh well, Jim thanks for your effort and work to try to get this heard.

Jim,

Thanks for all your help. I also tried to contact Fema through their website but it would not work for me!!! I wanted to post this warning. I will be away from my computer all day today and can’t  get this posted anywhere. WARNING ABOUT JUNK SHOT---- BIG RISK OF DISASTROUS FAILURE!!!!!!!!!!! THESE "EXPERTS" SAY THERE IS NO RISK IF THIS FAILS >>>>NOT TRUE<<<< Avoid potential disaster, Need help. The Gulf Oil Spill "Junk Shot". If BP uses this junk shot method and the junk gets stuck in the Riser instead of the BOP stack it has the potential to blow the riser apart with no way then to stop the oil. I have been trying for BP to hear these 2 methods that I have to stop the leak. Method 1 Will allow a new riser to be put into place without affecting the pressure on the OLD riser and possibly causing a blow out of the seals or riser.

Method 2 will cap the well by hydraulic means and seal the well 100%. If they do choose a junk shot and the riser blows out Method 2 is the only way to repair the damage but MUST BE IN PLACE BEFORE JUNK SHOT IS ATTEMPTED.

Please hear this and help get this to the right people. They say they have the best minds on this but after almost a month we know this is not true. I will be posting this warning where ever I can for it to be public knowledge and if anything goes wrong the blood is on BP's hands.

Plumb-bob style oil cap cone

My idea is to build the semicircular elements (8-10) of diameter of 10 meters high and 20-25 meters, so they can be hooked with each other and forming a tower 200-250 feet high. Elements have a 'gap once filled will be placed in cement-water-lead in order to resist the pressure and complicate the face and remain anchored to the bottom. The tower base will have a valve that allows the release of 'water so that all 'internal remains only the oil, while the top will a valve that allows the pumping of oil. To bring the elements in place you can fix them and guide wire 4 slide in as many rings placed on the elements, the end wires can also be used to anchor the structure. The items will be coupled through the magnets that hold them in the right position, then one will be screwed with the 'other, between the elements o-ring. Placed strips of rubber O-rings do. We are at your disposal for further information. domenico.brico@libero.it

I am nobody. I know little of engineering. If the hull of a very large ship is sitting somewhere empty, or just being built (like an oil tanker) get it down there. Turn it upside down, fit valves, lower it on the leak. Then pump it out. Adequate room for crystal formation. It sinks into the mud, capturing the entire wellhead. You get a little breathing room before it fills up... A big ship. Get some real size involved here. We don't have much time left. It might even be too late. spottedowlstew@gmail.com

May 11, 2010 
Gary Grubbs
352-279-9222
PO Box 498
Aripeka, FL 34679
Grubbs Emergency Services

I want to introduce myself and offer up the assistance of my company, Grubbs Emergency Services, LLC and my resource, SunWest Harbourtowne. I obviously have been tracking the incredible oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico and as a Florida native, I can not stand idle. Therefore, I wanted to make available to your company and any responding agency the following: 
 

1. Grubbs Emergency Services, LLC is a nationwide and experienced disaster recovery firm specializing in rapid response, unlimited logistical capabilities and over 100 years of combined disaster recovery experience culminated through the Senior Management of our company. US Army Corps. Of Engineers (RET) Col. Robert Carpenter is the President of the company on has been involved in countless disaster deployments and was the leading expert on the $10.5 Billion Everglades Restoration Project in South Florida. He has specific experience in the areas of critical concern to include interaction and coordination of various environmental activist groups. This interaction included educating, briefing and reporting the project complexities to keep the public informed and to also provide consultation and positive solutions to what continues to be an on-going and very successful conservation project.

Further, Grubbs Emergency Services, LLC has performed disaster recovery work across the nation since 1993 in the form of disaster debris management, household hazardous waste removal, derelict vessel removal, a 600,000 gallon raw sewage/force main rupture cleanup and even multiple Red Tide fish kill cleanups. We have proven ourselves to be very resourceful and very creative in providing solutions to the stakeholders involved in any disaster event.  

Located in Aripeka, Florida and having been in business in this area for decades, we have a vast database and network of personnel, equipment and logistics to assist in preparation and response measures necessary in efforts to protect our coastline during this release. We must be pro-active because we do not only work here...we live here. There are 5 miles of coastline in Hernando and Pasco Counties that we have business and personnel interests in protecting, as well as any other areas we could be utilized. Another resource we would like to make available to you is land. The following is also owned by me  and is also a coastal jewel that deserves attention: 

2. Sunwest Harbourtowne is 2,400 acre parcel located at the Hernando County and Pasco County line. It is currently an operating lime rock mine and has recently been accepted as a Development of Regional Impact. The vision of SunWest is to eventually be a coastal resort community. Therefore, protection of this highly ecological and area of critical concern is a high priority for not only me personally, but for the community that will benefit form its construction.

However, that is not the purpose of this correspondence to you today. I would like to offer the property to assist the Unified Command or any other responding agency to utilize as a logistical staging area, a boom distribution point (the property has direct Gulf of Mexico access), area for the establishment of base camps, temporary office/administrative facilities, etc. The location is perfectly situated to service a multiple county response from the Big Bend to the Southwest portions of the Florida Peninsula. Further, the local fishing and shrimping community located in this area stands poised to assist in any manner necessary to protect their livelihoods.  

In closing, I would be remiss as a Florida citizen if I did not make these resources available to your company and any other responding agency to assist in efforts to prepare and respond to this incredible incident. Now is the time to react. Don't wait for the oil to reach our coast. Please consider the use of these resources and let's start our preparations now. I have the people, I have the resources, I have the creativity and flexibility to assist you in this effort. Please call me at your earliest convenience to discuss operational options. I can be reached on my cell at 352-279-9222.

Hi my name is Clifford w Killian and my idea is to freeze the pipe below the leeks by building a hour glass made from hallow copper or aluminum cubes.  The hour glass base will be six cubes and we lose one cube per level which will total 42 cubes.  Each cube will be 1.5 times the diameter of the pipe, now where the single cubes meet around the pipe, there should be a carbon fiber wrap place around the pipe if possible.  buoyancy lines should be attached to the hour glass structure to prevent another bend in the pipe for when it is frozen; once frozen the pipe may be cut and threaded to place a cap on it.  It should take around four times the volume of the hour glass structure in liquid nitrogen to freeze enough of the oil long enough for the pipe to be cut and threaded for the cap. Phone is 218-851-2156 call after 3pm eastern.

Most, at least 90% of the water oil contamination should be abled to be removed from the ocean in a matter of 3 or 4 days. As follows, use many, many ocean surface water skimmers or siphons to suck-up water oil contamination into many oil tankers simultaneously. The oil tankers to be immediately provided by the petroleum corporations. The water oil contamination can then be processed later either in the tankers themselves to remove the water from the contamination, or the remove the oil from the contamination.

Seee Yaaa !! Rouel
iamrouelf@me.com

To whom it may concern.

It has already been described I am guessing but I will suggest it again just
in case. I suggest that a robotic submarine be equipped with a hydraulic
claw of a size sufficient to pinch the pipe shut.

Hope this helps

Jim Thomas

BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF TECHNOLOGY:

Build a tapered needle out of iron to be lowered into orifice by using guides and a system to force needle into the orifice.  At the point of the needle there should be rubber gaskets placed to reduced the mishap of leakage.  There would be very little resistance thus enabling you to direct the needle into the opening.  Install rubber gaskets around the upper tapered part of the needle to form a seal.

MATERIALS REQUIRED:

Iron for needle and the possible guides, rubber gaskets.

EQUIPMENT REQUIRED:

A hydraulic system to operate the guides and force required needle to be inserted.

EXPERTISE REQUIRED:

Blue prints would need to be engineered.  Steel workers, experienced oil riggers.

I understand that there needs to be more specific details to this plan.  I assume qualified personnel that are equipped to make these decisions.

Please feel free to contact me at the above email address as I do not want to waste much of your time with a lengthy email or you may call me at (802) 258-0462

Thank you in advance for your time,

Sincerely,

Allen L. Jackson
P.O. Box 801
Wilmington, VT  05363

James Pryber - pryberjames@att.net
 

Insert Rod with Catheter approx 20’ into pipe and then inflate the Catheter blocking the flow.  Allows then to place permanent cement at end of pipe permanently sealing leak

Materials

Rod with Balloon Catheter

Compressed Gas

Cement

Balloon of Durable/Flexible material to withstand until cement in place

Compressed gas sufficient at Temperature/Pressure of 5000’

Cement to provide permanent seal

Does not damage pipe or create larger problem

Permanently solves problem

Good Luck

Best,

John Merana

(215)862-9726

Submitted to NPR "All things considered" by Jim Howard - May 15th, 2010

Please Help. I have a new website that PEOPLE are submitting very real OIL SPILL IDEAS to, unlike the Deepwater Horizon's Alternative Response Technology Inquiry form on their website! This site is http://www.alternativeresponsetechnology.com/  ... This is OPEN SOURCE. I am posting all ideas. We need to move FAST and this is the only way I know of to help. Currently there are some top ideas that may help in this disaster and get the most powerful people to get Deepwater Horizon moving in the right direction technologically. Any help in getting this out there and fast is greatly appreciated and we listen to NPR exclusively and donate!!!

What happens when the oil spill reaches the sovereign country of MEXICO and ruins their tourist and fishing industry?  Now we have a new set of problems of international law.
SJM

The drill pipe was cut and a valve was installed.  Now that the riser has been x-rayed was the area where the drill pipe bent x-rayed to determine how badly the drill pipe was collapsed?  Since it was leaking we know it was not a total collapse.  In stopping the flow out of the drill pipe that flow probably shifted to the other 2 leaks.

Questions;

Do we know where the end of the drill pipe is in relation to the various sets of rams in the BOP?

Will the riser contain the reservoir pressure?

Has connecting the valve on the end of the drill pipe to a riser and trying to produce as much oil as possible from the drill pipe been considered.  Any volume produced from the drill pipe should reduce the leakage from the 2 broken spots in the riser.  Any oil recovered by the drill pipe would not have to be recovered from waters or shores of the Gulf.  Since there was flow out of the drill pipe we know there was sufficient pressure to overcome the hydrostatic head of sea water in the new riser.  Flow might be improved by using gas lift or other artificial means to reduce backpressure at the ROV installed valve.

Depending on how badly the drill pipe is crimped, might it be possible to inject your garbage materials through the drill pipe and get them below at least one set of rams or perhaps if above all the rams, it would rise and start bridging where the riser is bent over?

Bob Morse
Azure Energy, Ltd.
3737 East 59th Pl
Tulsa, OK 74135-7825
918-712-2727  or 800-492-4393
Fax  918-747-6131
918-633-0330 Cell1  or  918-237-8727 Cell2

Advance umbrella device through insertion tube.  Underside requires appropriate "pillow" or cushion or sealant.  Once umbrella reaches underground trap or oil cavity, open umbrella, deploy cushion, and retract forcefully.  This forms temporary seal.  Second tube has been advanced on the outside of the insertion tube just behind umbrella device to inject appropriate materials into the initial large well pipe.  The umbrella/cushion must hold only long enough for this material to set.

from mobile - Blair Odland

Make a spider-like contraption of metal (or pvc) with an open cylinder at the center (capped off from the rest of the apparatus) and with a number of spider legs radiating out from the central stem. At the terminus of each spider leg is a large reservoir. The level of the hollow cylinder is slightly below that of the reservoirs. The device is lowered over the well head, the central hollow cylinder covering the well head. Cement is pumped into the central core, which then disperses throughout the spider legs, filling them and the reservoirs. Cement does not flow into the central hollow cylinder. As the weight of the entire device increases, it lowers itself with increasing pressure over the well head. The hollow cylinder buries itself in the bottom sediment and caps the well. The spider legs give the device stability.

 

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Daniel Epstein

www.danielepsteinpiano.com
 

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I like the idea of inserting an inflatable bladder (see #13)... but the bladder should go as far as possible into the pipe, perhaps past the most dramatic bends in the pipe.  However, inflating with compressed gas is not easy to do at 5000' depth... instead inflate with oil/water mixture (whatever is already at that depth) with submerged pumps.  This way, the pumps have much less work to do.  The bladder should be hotdog shaped to get good surface area, and there should be many parallel pumps to inflate quickly so the bladder is not washed out while inflating.  A pressure relief valve would be necessary to make sure the bladder does not rupture during rapid inflation.

It doesn't have to solve the problem, just slow the oil leak while the access well is drilled.

best,
Todd

I believe this oil needs to stored and used. And find all the hay the horses and cows are not going to eat from the farming areas. And throw it in the areas hit the worst. Dry the hay out after it's collected and drained and repeat the process.