I seems to
me that a simple idea to cap the riser
would be to unbolt the existing damaged
and cut riser (look below the cut..bolts!)
Install an oversized shut off valve in
place of the removed section. Shut the
valve off..simple right?
Ok..before
I am ridiculed about the pressure being
too great to accomplish this..keep this
in mind.. You install the valve in the
open position, thus letting the oil flow
through during the installation
process..or even apply a vacuum to the
valve as it is being installed. Weights
could even be added to hold it down
during installation. This seems like a
very simple permanent fix. Hell..they
could even pump the oil up to the
surface still. I would love feedback on
this idea..more than anything, to learn
why it would not work. The only thing I
could imagine is not being able to
remove the bolts on the old riser.
Thanks!
Mark
McBride
San Francisco Branch Manager
14411 Catalina St.
San Leandro, CA. 94577
510-346-0200 Ext. 14
925-681-8360 Cell
mcbridem@cumminsallison.com
www.cumminsallison.com
"Gravel Mountain"
What
about burying the BOP in a mountain of
rock, gravel and sand. The idea is to
increase the velocity of the
hydrocarbons that are being emitted by
forcing the flow to pass through
permeable media. Increased velocity
causes increased pressure loss and this
resistance will slow the total flow rate
coming from the formation. You can do
some simple calculations to estimate the
size of rock/grave/sand mountain that is
needed. The rock and gravel would be
brought out on barges and you would see
progress every day. Eventually you
could dump Portland cement to further
plug up the pore space in the gravel
mountain. Sorry if this has been
submitted before....didn't have time to
read through all the ideas.
Stu Keller
Senior
Drilling Consultant
Drilling & Subsurface Technology
Division
ExxonMobil
Upstream Research Company
Office: 713-431-7160 Mobile:
713-725-0596 Fax: 713-431-6617
Email:
stu.keller@exxonmobil.com
There is a
line of products manufactured by Supavac
and distributed by Columbia Basin Hotsy
llc that is very well suited to recover
spilled oil before it can get into the
marshes and beaches. Originally
designed for the mining industry, their
“Slurry Management Systems” are designed
to retrieve and transfer slurries,
sludge, oils and finds using only air.
My idea is to use a central collection
barge which houses the high volume air
compressor. This will feed air to each
of 4 hovercraft for small boat which
contain the SV110 pumps and an oil
skimmer attachment. The skimmer can be
adjusted for depth. The recovered oil
is then pumped back to the barge via
poly pipe up to 500 yards from the small
craft back to the barge. By employing 4
units, up to 700,000 yd2 can be
remediated without having to move the
barge. Collected oil is then pumped
from the barge to a tanker.
This method
of retrieval is very user friendly,
requires no electricity, can be run
24/7.
The most effective
way to attack the spill (From a Supavac
perspective) is by ensuring the set up
is relatively easy to manage which in
turn will make the process easy to
replicate.
The Supavac in this
particular operation can play two roles
efficiently, and they are two of the
four main selling points:
1. The Supavac
can vacuum recover the oil/water/sand
mixture and deliver it to a processing
unit or containment area.
2. The Supavac
can transfer the “mixture” 24/7 without
wearing out.
3. The Supavac
is air powered and operated so it’s a
“safe” option in the environment....no
electrics etc.
4. The Supavac
can operate remotely and cannot run dry
or burst into flames etc.
The operation must be
set up to benefit from these and the way
to do this is to employ a system whereby
the operators’ job is relatively simple
and easy. You don’t want him chasing
material and dragging equipment, he’ll
hate it and the equipment.
Obviously the bigger
the Supavac the more power, the more
power the more material it can recover
faster although there will be a trade
off in both compressor size and
manoeuvrability.
The vacuum will
always be the lowest point and this is
where the main advantage can be gleaned.
-
Offshore or close to the shore in
areas surrounded by a boom, you have
the ability to capture and transfer
that material quickly and safely.
-
At the water’s
edge you can recover the oil and no
doubt some sand along with whatever
else is there (weed etc) without the
need to screen the material or keep
the pickup submerged......no
priming.
-
In the reed and
marsh areas the Supavac can recover
the oil and mud along with the
grasses etc without the fear of
clogging or blocking which in
essence means more time pumping
which is what they need.
-
Supavac can also
supply Camlock bags we usually
supply for oily drill cuttings
transport offshore but these would
be excellent for oil waste recovery
as you can fit several hundred in a
20 footer and they’re lightweight
and compact until filled.
For more information
go to
www.supavac.com or call Robert at
Columbia Basin Hotsy
Robert J
Rohner
Columbia Basin
Hotsy
1225
S. 10th Ave.
Pasco, WA 99301
(509)
547-2323 office
(509) 547-3284 fax
(509) 430-2367 cell
www.cbhotsy.com
THIS IS RED ALERT
LOOK DEFCON 5. We are out
of options here. Only FOR SURE option
left.
Clean and well sort of
simple.
Go to
http://www.oceaneering.com/subsea-products/pipeline-repair-systems/smart-tap/
BUY THAT. Install it
right below the BOP. Drill into the side
that already has the BLOWOUT caused by
the FAILED top kill (we know it is there
even though you have not told us)
THEN BUY THIS
http://www.oceaneering.com/subsea-products/pipeline-repair-systems/piggable-wye-fitting/
attach this so you can
plug up the BOP with wadded up Kevlar
fabric. The stuff Tony may be wearing
right now.
on the straight end place
a 90 degree elbow with a flange run that
to your riser up to the drill ship.
on the y part this is
where you are going to send in your plug
for the BOP, Unless you have something
FOR SURE this time BP that is better,
use a bunch of wadded up Kevlar fabric.
Do you know how to set
this Piggable fitting up?
WE REALLY DON"T HAVE ANY
OTHER OPTIONS. anyone can check this out
with an engineer and it is doable with
existing products. 100% seal, diverts
flow to the drill ship so it does not
cause undue stress to the well bore.
If you need more
information feel free to contact me.
if BP does not do this
there is no hope, we will have a black
tide of death and the destruction of the
Gulf of Mexico and who knows what else.
THIS IS THE LAST CHANCE.
You all saw the oil
flowing out of the well now.
Does that look like 20%
more to ANYONE?
BP has not done anything
right yet. It is time to grab the B by
the P and get something done.
If anyone can take this
and get it to someone other than BP we
may have a shot before they destroy
anything that is left to fix.
If they remove the sippy
hat there is a flange there with a few
bolts on it, Lefty loosey righty tightie.
Remove the flange and go to Cameron,
oilstates or oceaneering (Hardware
stores for the oil industry) (real cool
stuff) and pick up a few parts. It is
all there. Everything they need. At this
point they need no tricky caps domes or
anything. There are even little devices
that can fix that little blowout from a
bad weld underneath the BOP. They can
get fancy and pick up a collet connector
and put that on the flange and get a
remote activated clamp with riser to a
drill ship. There are so many options,
Cameron even has another BOP like the
one that is on the floor here all busted
up. They have a few real LMRP’s
available also.
Everyone forward this to
the President, Senators, and Congressman
and any one you can think of .
Brad Wehde
Brad Wehde Interactive Media
65320 W Hwy 20
Bend, OR 97701
541-389-1261
email:
brad@wehdeinteractive.com
website:
http://www.wehdeinteractive.com
Do not know the size
of the pipe the oil is coming from
so will use examples. Lets say the
pipe is 4 inches ID. Take a 1 inch
pipe roughly 40 ft long then adapt
up to a 2 inch pipe then up to a 3
inch pipe then up to a pipe slightly
smaller than the 4 inch pipe with
oring channels cot in it every 3
inches, make this pipe 100 feet.
Start the 1 inch pipe into the 4
inch pipe as a guide. Keep shoving
down the pipe until all 100 feet of
oring pipe is in 4 inch pipe, have
valve attached on top of the 100 ft
of pipe and pipe running up to cargo
ships to catch oil. As the oil is
running up the repair pipe into the
ships the weld repair pipe to broken
pipe then close valve. If can get to
pipe to cut it should be easy to
feed smaller pipe into larger pipe.
Seams easy. Hope it works.
Thanks, Mike
(936) 443-8468
GOLDEN EGG
PLUG idea by:
emphac@yahoo.com
USA
GOLDEN EGG PLUG
[brief]
easy fab no
bolts, gaskets, sealants
flow/press control KILL TOP
ABILITY 100% recovery
Self
sealing/aligning Gravity and
malleability does it all.
4’ D pure or
semi-hard cast lead sphere, cast
over a 4’ /more 16” pipe inserted
half way in. w/
16” butterfly
valve and 4’/more 16” pipe
attached. 16” D plug in bottom of
form to mate w/ valve pipe flange
before casting to allow for inlet
bore.
Bolts welded to
all flanges facing up, perfectly
centered in holes, extra long and
tapered ground to allow install wo/damaging
treads.
Nuts welded to
pipe w/ universal joint drives
welded on other end.
Chamfer outside
bore surface to 23”/as desired to
allow 21” OD riser to sit inside
when lowered. Cut tapered grove
inside this cham as engrd to best
mate with cut off riser. ID [min
tapper] best if smaller than OD of
riser. OR modify to match the exact
geom.; if so, orientation has to be
marked and maintained during
install.
Place 6/more 4” x
30” x 8” x 8” ¼” plate welded,
inverted T lift lugs inside top of
form before casting.
locating
cradle: ¼” plate donut
min ID to go over cut riser.
1/8” upriggers concentrically welded
to said and top ring. Said rests
on BOP flange bolts. Collapses
when installed.
GOLDEN EGG PLUG
[detailed]
Lead should be
pure or semi-hard such as 3%
antimony or as researched
better/equal. Malleability is more
important than tensile strength, as
the massive size posses no tensile
stress problem; and the higher the
mallebality, the better the
sealing. Only advantage of the
hardening alloy component is to add
some additional tensile strength at
the riser interface to add more
stability if the riser takes a high
pressure surge. This can tear the
seal since the tensile strength of
pure lead is only 2000 psi.
Valve can be
automatically or manually modulated
for pressure and/or flow control,
full open, and [ if well is sealed
sufficiently ] full closed
operation.
KILL TOP can
probably be performed; and in a safe
manner, if this valve is throttled
to maintain right pressures during
mudding.
Valve has to be a
butterfly valve. Provides best
pressure and flow control. Least
restrictive, if needed. Least back
pressure when open to almost any
position. Provides the most laminar
flow
[ least turbulent
].
Dear Sirs,
I am sure many people are submitting ideas to seal
the pipe. My idea is to use small
octagon shaped super strong Neodymium
magnet pellets, each about the size of a
frozen pea, these would be fired down a
plastic pipes with compressed air deep
into the steel oil pipe, gradually
building a ‘scab’ to seal the pipe.
Kind regards,
Jonathan Cousins F.G.A
T. & B. Cousins & Sons Ltd.
Canterbury
Dwayne
McFatridge
XTO ENERGY
Email
dwayne_mcfatridge@xtoenergy.com
also email at
kodiak899@sbcglobal.net
817-739-3262
Gentlemen since you now have the riser
pipe cut off you should be able to
move another rig in place and run pipe
down to the well head. The pipe
should consist of the largest size and
weight of pipe that can be placed in
the well bore with a taper open ended
plug on bottom of the pipe. The pipe
should be long enough to for the Rov's
to be able to stab the pipe in the
well bore the next thing on the list is
to have a taper mill that will
enter the pipe next, once the taper mill
starts in the well bore start
rotating the mill slowly to help dress
off any of the rough edges that was
left on the riser after the cut. The
oil flowing out of the well bore
should keep the mill clean and should
start rising up through the pipe.
Next in line would be a taper packer to
help line the packer up so it can
enter the well bore I would think you
might want to run two to three packer
around 60' apart in case one on the
packer rubbers get damage going through
the well bore, also need to calculate
how much pipe you will need under the
packers to help hold down the pipe to
keep in from blowing back out of the
well bore. Once the first packer enter
the well bore the oil should start
rising up through the pipe and once the
sea water is displace it should
slow down at the well head. Once you
have all three packers in the hole
and deep enough in the well bore set
packers this should stop all the oil
from coming out of the well head and
should have all the oil now coming
through the pipe. You could run some
kind of valve that you could close in
the pipe string after you have the
packers set incase you need to cut the
pipe sting and move the rig because of
bad weather. This should shut down
the oil flow and give you time to drill
your relief wells.
Hope this will help. Thanks Dwayne
The
oil flow can be blocked at the bottom of
the well pipe using a balloon inflated
with crude oil. Blocking crude oil
inflow at the bottom of the well pipe
will either stop or drastically reduce
the outflow and pressure of crude oil at
the top of the pipe, allowing a top
kill.
METHOD
Push a deflated balloon on a submersible
pump mounted on the end of a stiff metal
cable into the oil well shaft, like a
wire into a straw. Continue until the
cable end protrudes far into the reserve
of crude oil beneath the sea bed, past
the turbulence of the oil inflow.
Activate the pump to inflate the balloon
with crude oil.
Pull the balloon into position at the
bottom of the well pipe, where it will
be sucked against the intake opening.
MATERIALS REQUIRED
Crude oil, in situ under the sea bed, to
inflate the balloon.
EQUIPMENT REQUIRED
A balloon of sufficient diameter made of
toughed material, to block the pipe.
A stiff
cable, carrying electric signals
and power, to insert into the well and
control the pump.
A submersible electric pump, designed to
fill the balloon with the crude oil
surrounding it.
Jim Miles
I think it
would be a good idea to
inject DAWN liquid detergent
right at the cap on the
ocean floor. The upward
pressure would create a good
mix and the oil would be
broken down before it
reaches the surface. They
could also add a coagulant
along with the dispersant
they are applying on the
surface and the remaining
particles should settle to
the ocean floor long before
reaching our shorelines.
This type of technology is
used in treating both
domestic and industrial
waste throughout the nation.
This is not the permanent
fix but could surely
minimize damage in the short
term.
jeff_baldwin@getnet.net
put
a bladder in the pipe
jamesogles25@yahoo.com
the time you
talked about drilling another well it
would have already been done and the
pressure would have been off that one
well ! but drill baby drill and put
Halliburton in charge of capping the
well they will get the job done and put
the monkey on there back ???..... ed
brentlinger
ebrentet@yahoo.com
Why can’t
the flange where the diamond wire saw
was mounted be un-bolted, a new flange
installed with a valve already attached
(and open of course). After the new
flange is bolted on, the valve could be
closed. I think the ROV’s are capable
but there may be other factors
preventing this. This seems so simple
surely it hasn’t been overlooked. What
are the repercussions to this idea?
Kerry
Loveless
University Of Montevallo
Electrical Supervisor
Station 6174
lovelesskg@montevallo.edu
Connect the
largest hot air balloon canopy over well
head and than connect hose to canopy to
retrieve oil. Connect multiplies
canopies together to collect the oil.
houbre@sbcglobal.net
Hi -
while most ideas are about how to
cap the leak, my idea is about how
to contain the oil that is leaking
right now.
Currently, the oil rises to the
surface, spreads and reaches the
shoreline, where some floating
barriers try to stop the oil from
reaching the shore.
My idea is to place a ring of
floating barriers, about 10 miles in
radius, around the location of the
oil leak. The oil can then be sucked
out of this small area, before it
spreads across the water surface.
Regards
OK Einstien
how long would it take to manufacture a
tube 6000 feet long 30 feet in diameter
made of plastic sheeting that is 1/8 of
an inch thick with a zipper or some way
to connect it around the pipe so you
lower it down around the pipe that is
now siphoning off the oil untill it
reaches the area that is capped and
leaking huge amounts around the cap. The
oil will be trapped inside the plastic
tube and float to the top where you can
vacume it up or skim it or whatever and
collect it in a tanker. Given the
magnitude of the situation I find it
hard to believe that we don't have the
technoligy to build such a tube and
lower it down around the pipe that is
now siphoning off the oil. It would act
the same way a hot air balloon does to
trap the hot air that rises into the
balloon. Hear is a tip make it about two
hundred feet wide at the surface so you
have some room to work skimming the
oil genius. My understanding is that the
ruptured pipe is twenty inches thick and
the oil coming out around the edges
can't be more than about another four
two five feet so you might be able to
make the tube twenty feet in diameter if
you want to cheep out. .....So whats the
problem?
--
Feng Winham
Better Homes & Gardens
Rand Realty
38 East Market Street
Rhinebeck, NY12572
Office # (845)876-2211
Cellphone # (845)235-6887
Website:
www.HudsonValleyHomeHunter.com
Just a
thought why not use some sort of
compression coupling with a
piece of pipe cap on the other end I
doubt there's one laying around
somewhere but I'm sure one can be built
to fit the diameter of pipe
that's down there of there enough good
pipe down there with a clean
cut I believe it could work !
Sent from Jerrods iPhone
Is anyone suggesting a DAF skimmer
mounted on a barge to reclaim this oil?
It seems to me that the addition of
surfactants into the marine environment
to dispurse the oil actually
exascerbates the problem. If the raw
oil is allowed to float, it can easily
be skimmed off and processed. Once the
oil mixes with water it cannot be
removed and becomes an ecological
nightmare at the quantities we are
seeing. Also, large floating capture
lagoons could be employed using plastic
floatation devices and weighted
liners. Just a thought.
rickc123@windstream.net
Gentlemen:
I have a
suggestion for controlling/stopping
the BP oil leak in the Gulf of
Mexico.
My suggestion is to
use a length of steel pipe that will
telescope into the well casing below
the blowout device. The telescoping
steel pipe would have a few turns of
waterproof PRIMACORD attached to
the inside circumference of the pipe
near the bottom. When the prima cord
is detonated it would form a bulge
around the circumference both the
telescoping pipe and the well
casing, locking the pipes together
and sealing them. Tests would have
to be made to determine the number
of PRIMACORD turns required to
optimize the circumferential bulge
of the pipes. Six turns of PRIMACORD
will sever a telephone pole.
The telescoping pipe
would have an open valve attached to
the upper end that is open during
insertion to minimize upward
pressure. After sealing and locking
the pipes together, the valve could
be closed to stop all leakage or to
control flow to a surface ship. The
bottom of the telescoping pipe could
use an open, tapered frame work of
steel bars to help guide the initial
insertion.
My understanding is
that the pipe above the blow out
prevention device was sheared off.
If this opening is too jagged to
insert the telescoping pipe, a
smooth cut can be made using a
linear shaped charge installed by a
ROV. Linear shaped charges are very
effective in shearing steel plate
and would have been much easier to
implement that the sawing that was
first attempted.
I assume that a
telescoping pipe slightly less than
the inner diameter or the well
casing can be inserted through the
blowout prevention device.
My qualifications: A
BS and MS degree in mechanical
engineering from N.C. State
University, 32 years at Bell
Telephone Laboratories working on
classified government
contracts-including many concerned
with marine hardware and sea bottom
applications, 20 years as a CIA
contract consultant working on
undersea applications.
If there is any
interest in this idea, I can supply
additional information and sketches
if given a fax number.
Donald L. Garren
555 Parkwood Road
Lambsburg, VA 24351
Phone: (276) 755-5158
Fax: (276) 755-2957
E-mail: nadonga@aol.com
This thought is
how to help our Marshes. We know
oil will get into our marshes
and need to be proactive in
saving them but we also need to
keep an open mind. When these
areas get infested with oil they
need to be control burn. If you
burn off the oil before it
poisons the marsh grass, the
marsh grass will come back. we
have marsh fires all the time
and the areas rebound well. If
you allow the oil to poison the
grass the root system dies and
no more marsh's. Air boats could
help make fast burns and we may
have to cut breaks to control it
but it can be done.
James Smith
randini@rtconline.com
Have we lost our minds. The
submarine was invented long ago.
We need to get down there and
plug this leak NOW......... Or
Place a LARGER PIPE over the
whole structure , which is
fitted at top with the proper
hose, to ship.
I can not believe this is
happening . I am watching this
Death of the Gulf on TV. Soon to
be in my back yard. This goes to
prove how STUPID mankind IS. God
help us now.
Pray for us Idiots !!!
Robert Kaylor. Navarre Fl.
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