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    Alternative Response Technology for Capping the Deepwater Horizon Oil Well & for Oil Spill Cleanup

Insert smaller pipe, 4 to 6 inch into drill casing, lower it into drill casing to a sufficient depth, then place a cone shaped metal seal over inserted pipe and drive it into drill case opening sealing main casein leaving inserted pipe for pumping. 
C Thomas
rayanddoris61@att.net


Gulf Oil Fix:

The oil well leak in the Gulf should have been stopped weeks ago.  Perpetually cleaning up the mess is not a viable option.  It wastes resources, time and is costly beyond reason; seemingly indefinitely and you also lose the benefit of having the oil.

The answer is to control the flow by designing an inverted “funnel” cap with two vents and a single valve/switch in it.  The main vent is left open when putting it into place.  Once over the well, the valve could be actuated mechanically to divert the flow to the other vent/hole.  That vent could be connected to a “hose” which would fill a tanker.

There are plenty of fabrication companies that can design and build this.   CB&I in Houston could do it as could many others.

CB&I builds water towers and this type of fabrication is not dissimilar.   It could be made from aluminum to make it easy to handle in the water.

Once in the ocean, it would need rigging to allow DSV’s (deep submersible vehicles) to place the inverted funnel accurately over the well.   DSVs can easily dive to over 15,000 ft below the surface and the well is at about the 5,200 ft mark.  You would leave the main vent open while placing it over the well so as to avoid any resistance. 

It would take about a month to design the fixture in Autocad or Solidworks and another month to fabricate it.    It should have been done long ago.  It’s not rocket science.  Why people are waiting and just staring at the well is just enigmatic.  This President, and I use the term loosely, has had the wherewithal to do all of this and apparently he elects to do nothing.

I have not gone into every detail here such as weighting the fixture to anchor it in place; valves in the lines for switching tankers; but those are really just details.  

My take is build the funnel-cap and deliver it to the site in less than 60 days.  Continue clean up and protection efforts.  Problem solved.  

In fact, if I were CEO of Exxon/Mobile or other major oil company I would fund the effort jointly with other oil companies and sue BP and the US Gov’t for inaction, lost revenue, lost jobs, and any and all punitive and consequential damages.

With Best Regards,

Chuck Russell
Vice President of Sales
TRANSBOTICS Corporation
An ISO 9001:2000 Registered Company
www.transbotics.com


704-364-4039 Fax
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My idea is more of a question.  Are there any compression type fittings for a 21 inch drill stem?   Attached is a crude drawing.  What I am attempting to show is a larger pipe (21 ¼ inches?) with a lip or flare on the end to slip over the 21 inch drill stem or riser.

There is a seal or “boot” that would go around the 21 inch riser.  The collar is split and designed with sharp edges to cut into the 21 inch riser to grip it.  The problem is the pressure from the oil and gas and I can’t find any information about that psi.

The drawing only show 2 bolts to secure the collar/compression flange to the 21 inch riser, but more could be added to provide the strength necessary to hold under the pressure.  One side of the collar/compression flange would have the nut attached by welding or being fabricated before submersion.  The other side would have a bolt with a “keeper” to prevent the bolt from falling out.

The top of the flared pipe would be threaded with a simple gate value attached.  The length would be at BP’s discretion to turn off the flow or make it possible to open and close to recovery the oil until the other wells are completed and this one is plugged.

The installation would be to slide the seal over the riser.  Then the flared pipe over the riser to rest on the seal.  Install the collar/compression flange and tighten the bolts.  Turn the gate value off and hope it stop the flow.

If you thing this has merit and would like to call me and ask questions, my number is 970-378-0435.

Thank you for reviewing.

Charlie McVey
5311 W 1st Street
Greeley, CO 80634


To Someone with a Brain:

 

Stopping the oil flow needs to be the first thing that BP is concerned with.  It looks like BP only wants to capture the oil, but not stop the flow into the Gulf.  I think that is bullshit.  Fixing the leak doesn't seem that complicated in my opinion.  One of my companies manufactures GloBaits, which is a photoluminescent fishing lure that is non-toxic and eco-friendly.  The greed of BP is dramatically impacting not only my business, but thousands of other businesses in the Gulf area.

 

As far as our government and that incompetent man we call a president, stop screwing around with red tape and politics and fix the problem.  There are other countries that are ready to respond and assist with clean-up and recovery, but they are waiting for the go-ahead from BP and the Obama administration.  President Obama is too young and inexperienced and has never dealt with a major disaster.  He is more concerned with worrying about who is paying for this issue and making sure they pull the proper permits than actually fixing it.  He is worrying about attending parties, speaking at graduations and other bullshit.  He should get his ass down there and participate in the clean-up efforts himself and prove to the American public that he gives a shit.  A true leader or captain goes down with his ship.  He stays and tries to fix the issue until there is nothing left to fix.  How many parties other crap has he been involved in during the last 54 days that have absolutely nothing to do with the oil spill?  In my opinion, his priorities are so backwards that he should be impeached over his behavior.  Almost makes you wonder if BP is lining his pockets as well.  BP is spending millions on advertising to convince us that they care.  Start showing it.  Get the flow stopped.  Stopped now!

 

Watching and listening to the news, it seems everyone is only worried about what BP will allow.  F#%k BP.  It is our resources being affected, our eco-system being destroyed, and our citizens being put out of work.  Why should we give a shit about another country's corporation and what they will allow?  Also, I am wondering where FEMA is in all of this.  54 days and we still haven't seen them lift a finger to help!  If this isn’t a disaster, what is?  They should be out there cleaning birds and other wildlife with everyone else.  They should be filling sandbags and building berms.  I want to know which idiot calls this a 'spill.'  It is blatantly obvious that this is free flowing oil and a major problem for the United States and its citizens.  (I don't want to get into the semantics or the politics of how deep in the shit our government is burying this country over bullshit red tape and people's feelings.)

 

I am submitting three ideas to stop the flow of oil.  As far as the well itself, BP should re-drill the damn thing and protect our coastal resources.  Our government should have the balls to stand up to them and tell them to quit trying to capture the flow of oil, regardless of what the world's opinion is about that.  Watching the flow videos, it is very obvious that there is a flange directly under the cut pipe.  Fix #1 - Disconnect the flange.  Connect new flange with cut-off valve.  During the process of re-connecting, leave the valve open.  That will allow the pressure of the main pipe to be released to safely connect the new flange.  Upon completion of fastening new flange in place, close the valve and stop the flow of oil.  If BP wants to recover that well, connect to the new shut-off valve and re-pipe up to the new rig.  Fix #2 - Insert into cut end, 18" pipe approximately 6 feet deep wrapped in air bags or a baffling system.  Fill air bags.  This will cause the air bags and new pipe to wedge in place and 'cork' the oil.  At the end of that pipe, have a shut-off valve on the high side.  Turn off valve.  Again, the flow of oil would be stopped.  Again, if BP wants to recover oil from that well, connect to shut-off valve and freely pump oil to surface.  Fix #3 – Pump concrete into the top of the broken pipe at high pressure until flow has stopped.  Whether it is fifty yards of concrete or fifty million yards of concrete, put a permanent plug in that pipe.

 

We, as citizens, need to ensure that this flow of oil is stopped.  If that means taking it out of our government's hands and doing it ourselves, so be it.  I am all for cleaning up the mess, but trying to clean something up as the flow continues is a waste of time and resources.  Everyone cried about helping after Katrina.  Everyone waved their arms and jumped up and down - from Hollywood to left-wing activists.  Where are those people today?  No one has the balls to say it how it is.  F#%k BP and f#%k Obama.  Fix the f#%king problem while there is still something left to save.  Drilling relief wells that won't be ready for months will not fix the problem.  They will slow the flow of oil down, but there will still be a discharge into our environment.

 

As far as those that are blaming President Bush and his administration for this problem, shove your heads back in your ass.  It was Clinton's policies in the first place.  And if those policies were so bad and everyone was so concerned, why didn't Obama change those policies when he took over the White House?  Instead of bitching about healthcare, he could have done something about safeguarding our country and our national resources.  During the Katrina thing, everyone threw Bush and FEMA under the bus and criticized their every move.  They are still criticized to this day because of their actions during that event.  No one is criticizing Obama and FEMA for the lack of action on their parts to fix the problem in the Gulf.  I wonder why.  Is it too politically incorrect?  Is everyone to scared to offend a black president and be considered racist?  Being too young, inexperienced, naïve, and riding an ego trip has nothing to do with skin color.  It has to do with his incompetence.

 

When disaster strikes, we should move forward, by addressing the issues and repairing the problems first.  Worry about who is paying the bills later.  President Obama – do your job or get out and let someone who has the ability to do it properly do it.

 

Tony Trost

CEO

AD Trost Group

tony@adtrostgroup.com


To whom it may concern. My name is Gordon Kinney . I live on the coast of Maine .I have been in heavy marine construction most  of my adult life. The one thing that I have learned, that in the marine world to keep it simple is the best way . I have watched this disaster unfold since the first news story was broadcast on the nightly news .You have at your access is a very large  fleet of shrimp boats and the men that would  gladly use them to help B P clean up the oil . Here is my recommendation, stop spraying disbursement chemicals and let the oil come to surface. Start at the leading edge of the spill , load as many c-130 aircraft as you can with your basic oil absorbent diapers ,deploy them from low level flight on to the spill. Re-rig as many shrimp boat as you can to retrieve the diapers . form a beam to beam formation and start dragging for them .Deploy barges so they can dump the contaminated diapers to bring them back to land and burn them in one of Waste Management  recycling  facilities to create energy. Any pads that do make land fall can at leased by picked up by the people that I am watching poke at the oil with sticks. I now this may sound very simple .But like I said simple is always better when it come to the marine world. Thank you for your time and I hope you take this suggestion to heart ,because from where I sit you all are trying to recreate the wheel  .Sincerely Gordon Kinney


keiranwarnock@bigpond.com


Could you possibly slip a 30" annular over the riser upside down with a second annular flanged to the 30" ( Bottom to Bottom ). Close the Upside down annular around the exterior of the riser and the right side up annular around a pipe to surface where you might contain and collect the oil. This would not sustain high pressures but may provide a controlled flow path. This would simply be a hydraulic "Dresser Sleeve" so to speak.

 
Ken Aucoin
kwaucoin@yahoo.com
FLOATATION PIPE made with outer/inner shell filled with compressed gas or
even light oil. This pipe will float or bouy to allow a 3ft or 10ft diameter column to float
and stand from top to bottom. 

 
UNTIL the floatation pipe is in place, a large WHALE BAG can be deployed to catch
the oil spill , as the bag can be enclosed via a net and tied to the bottom, anchored until
filled. Gas can be leached from the bag top. The BAG is empty when deployed, so it is
easily filled.

 
Some resin or foam may also be available to provide FLOATATION pipe.

spowage@gmail.com


In the California Delta some years back, 1994-5 they installed along the western edge of Franks Trac concrete
panels to stop the wave damage along that part of the trac and adjacent waterway. Essentially eliminating wave
action and catching flotsam pushed along by the fairly constant delta breeze.
 
This operation was swift and required a small crew and dredge or crane to set the panels. Panels were easy to make
and placement fairly straight forward, the individual panels rose above the mean high tide about 6 feet, I'm not sure their overall length  or dimensions but the army corp of engineers would have all that data.  Something like this could be used as a temporary protection until the oil could be picked up, scraped off, dispersed......whatever.
 
Troy Peterson
510 545-7437

Dear Sir,

In addition to my previous suggestion for fixing oil leakage ( by injecting pressured  molted tin directly inside the leaking hole, molted tin will harden very fast when touching the cold water and closing the leak point), now I have a new proposal for cleaning the oil polluted coasts by using “membrane separation technology”, attachment describing the idea.

"oil separation box contain two tanks, bottom tank is controlling depth by weight, this will done by filling or removal water through the solenoid and pump, and upper tank contain special membrane (oil separation membrane) on the water attack side facing the water contaminated with oils, this box will withdrawn by leading ship which contain oil tank & sucking pump and connected to the oil separation box by hose."


This BIG OIL SPILL NEEDS BIG IDEAS  THIS IS A BIG IDEA THAT CAN AND WILL =
WORK

THEY NEED TO HAVE LARGE TO VERY LARGE OIL TANKERS SET UP WITH LARGE =
BARGES ONE ON EACH SIDE OF THE SHIP NEAR THE SHIPS BOW.
 EACH BARGE WILL HAVE WHAT I CALL THE VERY LARGE DUST PAN  THAT IS A =
SEMI FLOATING SCOOP  IT WOULD BE WIDER  AND DEEPER AT THE FRONT AND =
NARROW AT THE BACK.  BASICALLY TO SCOOP THE OIL WATER MIX AND GUIDE INTO =
THE SUCTION INTAKES OF  MULTIPLE VERY LARGE PORTABLE PUMPS. (4,000 TO =
10,000 GPM)

THESE PUMPS WOULD BE MOUNTED  TO THE DECK OF THE BARGES ALONG WITH THERE =
FUEL TANKS, CONTROL MODULES, CREW AND MAINTENANCE/REPAIR MODULES.

THE DISCHARGE OF THE PUMPS WOULD TRANSFER THE OIL/WATER MIX TO THE =
TANKERS FIRST LARGE TANK/HOLD AND AS THE TANK FILLS THE OIL/WATER WOULD =
START TO SEPARATE ONCE AGAIN (JUST LIKE OIL AND VINEGAR SALAD =
DRESSING).=20

THEN THE TANK SHIP WOULD PUMP THE OIL OFF THE TOP OF THE TANK TO THE =
NEXT TANK AND AGAIN THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER SEPARATION OF OIL AND WATER, =
AND AND THEN THE OIL WOULD BE SENT TO A STORAGE TANK/HOLD, AND THIS =
COULD BE TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER OIL TANKER SHIP TRAILING THE MOTHER  SHIP. =
AS THE OIL WATER SEPARATION IS TAKING PLACE THE OIL FREE WATER WOULD =
BE PUMPED OVERBOARD.
 THE MOTHER SHIP COULD STAY ON STATION FOR A EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME =
COLLECTING THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF OIL AT THE SURFACE DOWN CURRENT FROM =
THE WELL.

THE SEPARATION OF THE OIL MIGHT TAKE SEVERAL TANK TO TANK STEPS BUT =
THESE SHIPS DO THIS ALL THE TIME AS THEY CARRY SEA WATER IN  THESE HOLDS =
AS BALLAST FOR THE RETURN EMPTY TRIP TO TAKE ON MORE OIL.

ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT IS "ON THE SHELF"  THERE IS NOTHING NEW EXCEPT THE =
SIZE OF THE ENDEAVOR, THIS WOULD AND CAN WORK. ANY GOOD SHIPYARD COULD =
GET THIS READY TO WORK IN LESS THAN 5 DAYS WITH MOTIVATED PEOPLE FROM =
THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM.
 THE OIL NEEDS TO BE COLLECTED BY THE THOUSANDS OF BARRELS AT SEA NOT BY =
THE GALLONS ON SHORE ,OR DISPERSED WHERE  YOU DON'T SEE IT BUT IT WILL =
EFFECT THE OCEANS ECOLOGIES FOREVER IN WAYS WE NEVER KNOW.
CARY PARK ,         REDDING, CALIFORNIA
carynshannon@earthlink.net 

Insert a nuclear bomb and may if the blast is deep enough, it will cap off from the earth.
nancy_waldrop@comcast.net 


														

 
Richard Warner, Manager
PRV, LLC
749 S. Lemay, #A3-178
Fort Collins, CO  80524
rwarner@prv.com

Possible way to contain the leak.   6/16/2010
 
1. Use a large ship or Barge, possibly 100 tons?
2. Pre-Install 2 large valves for and aft used to offload the oil later.
3. Cut a large hole in the bottom of the ship, 4-6 " in diameter.
4. Weld a flange around the hole 4-6" deep, used to sink in the ocean floor as far as possible.
5. Install a large hatch on top of the ship.
 
Drop the ship over the leaking pipe. As the oil is displacing the water in the ship, close the hatch and seal it.
Connect the valves and pump the oil to waiting tankers.
 
Michael Bolin
mhbolin@aol.com

I have a real good idea and no one listens. I can collect the oil. My son is a civil engineer and he thinks my idea is fantastic. I worked separating water and chemicals for years as a Chemical waste water tech. I worked with this so I can separate gas bubbles so it doesn't mix with the oil first and then ( In a controlled manner) lift the oil slowly form several hoses to bring it to the top.
No it will not freeze and no I do not want to see sand mix with oil and make it so heavy it will not lift. I can do it. Make it your job to see my idea is heard.
Hello, this is our world here. We can drill relief wells and many ideas they have are great but we needed to start collecting the oil escaping several weeks ago. Please listen to me or suggest a radio station who will get action for me.
Carl Hale
8 Darby Dr.
Westfield, MA 01085
cell 413-519-5445

I will donate my time for free. You would be a hero by helping this problem to go away. BP did not give me a single chance to even talk to an engineer. Thanks,  Carl


Flag Day – Monday, June 14, 2010

 

The problem with collecting and disposing of the crude oil polluting the Gulf of Mexico is there is lack of incentive. Without proper motivation, organization has not been forthcoming and assets are scattered and have yet to be fully implemented.

Here is a plan that takes the process out of the hands of bureaucrats and puts the task to a free market, capitalist program for getting the mess out of the Gulf and into the economy.

 

Living on the Gulf of Mexico I have often remarked that there is billions of dollars spewing and floating out on the open waters; the problem: how to capitalize upon it.

In the Old West, when a man had turned outlaw and needed to brought in, his worth was increased to the point that private contractors took upon themselves to bring in the offender – at their own initial expense – to then collect the previously declared compensation, a bounty.

 

It was free enterprise and it worked remarkably well – and it will again.

 

With that I propose…

 

 

Bounty Oil Company

A Market-Creation solution

To cleaning up the Gulf Oil

 

There appears to be little or no control over the organizational method(s) to begin cleaning the oil out of the Gulf. That’s alright, we don’t need them.

By creating a market for this tainted oil – putting a bounty on it – we can bring many more assets into play much quicker.

Markets have slowed in the oil industry in the past few years and there are many idle supertankers that may be put to good service.

We also have various technologies – skimmers, centrifuges and the like that have yet to see much potential. Others may need to be invented and manufactured …creating jobs.

 

1. Create an (artificial) market – by placing a bounty on the renegade oil, assets will be brought to bear almost immediately. This could take the form of a separate exchange for this bounty oil. Paying perhaps 2-3 times the going rate for a barrel of crude for mixed oil/seawater; possibly 3-4 times the rate for crude for skimmed oil that has already been centrifuged or in some other fashion had the seawater extracted. Amounts could be adjusted to augment or regulate the speed of recovery.

1.      2. Funding the exchange – all concerned parties would initially make funds available so the exchange may purchase this bounty oil. At some point other parties may want to participate; other oil companies may want to contribute to this contingency plan, even private citizens and governments.

2.      3. Tax incentives – a modest tax allowance would be allowed for those who wish to fund this exchange. This could be reviewed periodically to insure a proper amount of funds.

 

A Permanent Market

It could be that we would want to make this permanent to off-set future disasters world-wide. Perhaps shares of stock could be sold.

 

Offsetting Costs

Obviously some of the costs for this fund would be off-set by the value of this recovered oil as it is returned to normal markets for consumption.

 

 

Respectfully submitted,

R. Steven Edel

727-784-9500

StevenEdel@Verizon.net


Position cylinder by cylinder , seal them . Get it to a reasonable height, use the available technology that failed at such low depths. this has taken to long already, gebi0211@aol.com


We all know BP is intentionally not measuring the flow of oil but it was pretty evident that the 18.75’’ pipe was sending oil at a velocity that we can all estimate.

HERE IS MY SOLUTION.

It is very simple.

1)      remove the bolts

2)      install a short riser pipe with a valve already installed on it leaving the valve open to allow oil to flow and not disturb the work in progress.

3)      Shut off the valve

Tools required:

Special bolt remover made of a planetary gear where the pinion gear is driven by the surface ship (there should be plenty of power on this sucker to do that right?)

Here is a schematic of the special tool.

 

Luc Pellerin

Directeur des Ventes

Alliance Prédictive
Tel: 41
8 570 5097
Fax: 866-568-7643
 

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Rubber expansion plug inserted into leaking pipe, plug can be inserted against pressure of blowing oil, plug is constructed of rubber   and metal with o ring.  After insertion plug is screwed down with 5,000 ft shaft This will cause plug to squeeze o ring against sides of pipe forming tight seal.                                                                                                                 


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From: "Goff ." goff1963@insightbb.com
To: altrenativeresponsetechnology@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:10:23 -0400
Subject: oil leak solution
 
rubber expansion plug inserted into pipe    plug can be inserted against pressure of blowing oil                                                                                                                                                             plug is constructed of rubber and metal with o ring after inserted plug is screwed with 5000 ft          shaft   this will cause plug to squeeze o ring against sides of pipe forming tight seal
Hi
Has anybody tried blocking the flow by inserting a balloon in tube into the fracture and expanding the balloon  by compressed gas/air /whatever to plug the flow.
Sure it would need to be strong etc but can't be any harder or any less cost/time time effective than all the other attempts they have been making
 
Tam D

lower a cone shaped material similar to a fire hose, heavily weighted on the bottom of the cone. if the circumference of the cone is appx 100 ft at the bottom, have it gradually reduce in size as it reaches the surface. have 4-6 smaller feeder tubes which should connect to tankers in order to collect the until the relief well is finished.
Robert Ferenz
386-597-5854
Palm Coast FL
32137


Hi I have a idea that may help.   I know at WALMART  in their AUTOMOTIVE AREA  , there is  a PURPLE CONTAINER the size of a jug of radiator fluid  ,,,named   SUPER CLEANER, (NOT PURPLE POWER...YUK !! AND WORTHLESS!!)  it used to be made by CASTROL.
   ITS  BIODEGRADABLE...              I KNOW IT CUTS COOKING OILS GREAT AND AUTOMOTIVE OILS TOO,
 worth a try!!!
 MIKE HOMCHICK


LS,

Please be so kind as to send this draft option to stop the oil flow from the deepwaterhorizon well to the appropriate department(s).
Stenting is a procedure already used in intervention medical procedures.

This option makes use of the emergency capping installation and tubing already in place. and use this unit as a guide.
If you are interested in this option, please let me know.
greetings,
Dr Bob Schuringa
Bosweg 18
Julianadorp
Curacao

emails: bschuringa@refineriaisla.com
famschuringa@gmail.com
005999 8694849


FYI - The following was sent to various research organizations.

It has come to my attention that the Heritage Foundation has done research on technical help from foreign countries for oil spill technology.

FYI - we ( TECHBlue Center) are conducting a number of studies on clean waterfront technology which may help the oil spill recovery.

Some Japanese sources,specifically, have been very helpful. They have provided information on an 'oil solidifier' process which may be of great benefit to the current cleanup problems. And, the product is a EPA Listed Bio-remediation product (B-58), and listed by US Coast Guard - Shore Infrastructure Logistics

 FYI -- Product information & Video download (large file) - http://www.dockshops.net/alphagel/

Obviously, Japan has a history of insuring their fish populations are preserved -- so we focused on them first. They have been very forthcoming with answers. We are coordinating marine contractors who are qualified to apply and monitor the effort, as well as enlist a series of other technologies from Japan which may help.

So far, the toxicity levels are the lowest we have seen, and there are marine contractors prepared to apply the technology.

We are not pursuing publicity. Rather we would like introduction to other point people to help insure this all works. If you know of resources which may aid us, please notify me.

Please forward this to other like minds.


Dale Gilbert
Clean Waterfront Alliances
TECHBlue Center
www.cleanwaterfront.net
904.292.9444


 

 

 
 

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